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Forum Muslim Schools 
Topic New Year Honours List 
Author Iftikhar 
Date Created 27/04/2003 22:28:01 
Message Established 1981
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New Year Honours List
It is very easy for a British Muslim to be included in New Year Honour List. He/she should cut himself/herself off from Islamic cultural roots in the name of freedom and so called western democratic values.

A Muslim girl was awarded MBE for running away from her parents. She was mis-educated and de-educated by British teachers from an early age who have no respect for Islamic faith and Muslim community. Through out her educational career she was exposed to western values and environment. Her parents were in the impression that home and Mosque environment could develop Islamic Identity. Her school and Mosque failed to teach Arabic and Urdu languages, depriving her to enjoy the beauty of Islamic literature and poetry. She was forced to live and lead double standard in her every day life style. She lost the sense of identity crucial for mental, emotional and personality development. She suffered from Identity Crises making her misfit not only for her parents but also for the Muslim community. There are round about 6000 run away Muslim girls in the custody of local councils. They should also be included in the Honour List.

Her parents are simple villagers who settled in the western complicated and complex society. They could not understand its mechanisms but their daughter has been exposed to western values and environment. She is more English than a Muslim. When they realized the situation, it was too late and the only alternative left for them to take her back home to be married with the near relatives. Marrying a daughter is the ultimate aim of all Muslim parents. I do not blame the parents because they are victim of circumstances. I blame her school and teachers who anglicized her. They are the ones who should also be included in the New Year Honour List. All Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers so that not a single Muslim girl would suffer in future.
Iftikhar Ahmad

Topic Re: New Year Honours List 
Author ali baba 
Date Created 10/01/2005 14:44:23 
Message You are a ridiculous, pontificating joke of a person. If I was a muslim, I would be embarrassed to include you amongst followers of my faith. Thank god I'm not one.
The funniest thing is, you believe in all that you write, don't you? Every word! Excellent.
Good luck idiot. I love this website - extremely entertaining. 
Topic Re: New Year Honours List 
Author Penny Bloom 
Date Created 14/01/2005 16:09:34 
Message For God's sake, when are people going to realize that if children don't want to live like their parents they're not going to? You think Muslim families living in the West are somehow unique when it comes to this problem? Look around you. Nearly everybody's kids rebel. It's a part of life. And forcing your children to conform to your lifestyle is stupid and cruel. The most you can do is advise your children as they grow up, but if they're not going to listen it's their choice, for better or for worse. To think that the British government somehow owes it to Muslim individuals to reign in their children is ludicrous.

That's one thing.

Secondly, you're a bit quick to blame the situation on "de-education." The girl's parents apparently wanted to marry her off against her will, like a cow to be sold, and somehow she didn't accept this fact because, oh no, she lost her Muslim heritage. Since when is it Ok in Islam to force women to marry their "near relatives" (so she can have lovely inbred children) and ship them off to a distant country?

So it's not Ok to treat female girls like goods to be traded in Britain, boo-freakin'-hoo, I'm crying tears of compassion for the poor, poor parents that were unsuccessful in shipping their child away like a bloody parcel. Maybe this has nothing to do with "de-education" but more to do with the parents' pig-headed treatment of their child. She was growing up in Britain, of course she was going to be different from them, the fact that they didn't understand it in time is their problem. It's not about loss of Muslim heritage, it's about being able to recognize that children are NOT property.

Statements like yours are an embarrassment to Islam. Forced marriage is prohibited by your religion, even I know that. If the girl ran away to avoid such a fate, good for her.  
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